Another Modest Proposal: Let’s Help Trump by Surrounding Him With Gunslingers - WhoWhatWhy

Another Modest Proposal: Let’s Help Trump by Surrounding Him With Gunslingers

Marjory Stoneman Douglas, shooting, protest
Demonstration in Washington, D.C. organized by Teens For Gun Reform in the wake of shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida. Photo credit: Lorie Shaull / Flickr (CC BY-SA 2.0)
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In response to the Florida school massacre, the White House had President Donald Trump participate in an unusual, media-filmed “listening” session with mourning parents and students.

Trump listened — how could he not? He is being pressured to do something about gun violence in America. This most recent slaughter, and the remarkable public response to it, led by young people, is creating a potentially inexorable emotional wave.

So he proposed a solution.

More guns.

Yup! Trump thinks the way we can stop the murderous wave that has overtaken America is by putting weapons into the hands of amateur sheriffs — who, he insists, will stop the marauders in their tracks.

On Twitter yesterday morning, Trump declared that “A ‘gun free’ school is a magnet for bad people.”

What we need, he says, is to have some adults at the schools — not security guards, but teachers, administrators, and others — carrying concealed weapons.

This makes a lot of sense. In fact, everyone who feels threatened — who is around people who have grudges, or bad tempers, or seem a bit unhinged — ought to support this concept.

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Based on Trump’s own criteria, one place, surely, that qualifies as needing ‘responsible adults’ packing hidden guns would be:

  • The White House. Some pretty famous folks have opined that there’s a madman on the loose there. And worry that he could blow up the whole world.
  • The Greater Trump Orbit. We hear that women have been assaulted by some sexual predator who thinks he can get away with anything — and apparently is right.
  • The Trump Household. Those poor Trump wives and ex-es. They must live in fear. Why not encourage them to carry a stylish and petite firearm in their bejeweled purses, and train them for accuracy, should they ever be put in a scary and potentially dangerous situation?
  • Trump Hotels. Is it safe to venture into those places without being well armed? Concealed weapons for all drinkers and guests who would responsibly and effectively utilize their instrument.
  • While we’re at it, all those people who felt threatened by Trump when they worked for him really should be packing “protection.”

Finally, Trump thinks that anyone carrying concealed weapons should have special training and/or a military background. Which is a great idea — since everyone knows that people who were trained to kill in the military never bring those skills to bear on civilians (aside from a few PTSD sufferers who occasionally make the headlines).

It’s nice to see clear thinking and a solid way forward when lives are at stake.

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17 responses to “Another Modest Proposal: Let’s Help Trump by Surrounding Him With Gunslingers”

  1. Avatar Rot Hog or Die says:

    Come on, SOMEBODY must have a practical solution? I’m not looking for perfect, just practical that takes reality into account. Reality being, gun laws have become more liberal over the past 60 years and that’s not changing any time soon. Even if it did, you’re not going to make a third of a billion guns in this country just disappear.

  2. Avatar Root Hog or Die says:

    So Russ, what is your solution to the school shooting problem?

    In my 60 years gun laws have only become more liberal and they are becoming more so every year. There are currently 12 states where you don’t even need a permit to carry concealed and even more states currently have proposals to be voted on this year. So anything aimed at trying to keep guns from the hands of school shooters is simply impractical, and therefore not worth even discussing regardless how much you or I might think they are good ideas.

    There are plenty of schools where teachers can and do already carry concealed if they have a permit. You never heard about shootings in those schools. While this is not a perfect solution, there IS no perfect solution. What is a more PRACTICAL solution than letting teachers who already possess a permit, carry their weapons to school? Everything else I hear anyone suggesting is never going to happen, so why not try a practical approach instead of butting heads over guns in general? At my kids’ school, any teacher with a permit may carry in school, and they’ve never had any kind of problem.

  3. Avatar james warren says:

    Jack Handy, writer of strange and funny quotes, once wrote:

    “I think a good gift for the president would be a chocolate revolver. And since he’s so busy, you’d probably have to run up to him and hand it to him.”

  4. Avatar Allan says:

    Why not give EVERY STUDENT a gun? That way, when a savage sicko with bad intentions comes along, there will be MANY guns blowing him away, not just the one teacher’s gun. In addition to giving the sicko a dirt nap, it will deter future maniacs toot sweet. Brilliant. I’m a little surprised Trump has not floated this idea in a 3 AM tweet.

  5. Avatar John Rayburn says:

    Trump Hotels!!!! Amazing. Made me literally LOL.

    The whole arming teachers thing is so preposterously stupid, it could only come at an emotional time like this.

    I’ve worked in schools. The school I worked at was a small charter school that could barely afford to pay its teachers. Several teachers quit annually due to the low pay. The school could not afford private security.

    I would have been one of the armed people, most likely. Or the one Trump wanted to arm. I would absolutely not want this responsibility and would not want to have a firearm on me. I would have been 22-25 years old, fresh out of college, and only fired a gun a few times in my life. The idea of a young adult armed with a small pistol taking on a determined killer or killers with serious automatic weapons, possibly with body armor, is insane.

    I literally cannot imagine a single other teacher at that school packing heat. The idea is beyond laughable. If you asked all of them, I can assure you that they would not be interested. I’d love to see a poll of actual teachers about this. I’d be surprised if even 20% think it’s a decent idea (the hardest of hardcore Republicans only I imagine would be interested. Teachers want to teach. They do not want to have extra responsibilities. The profession already has one of the worst turnover ratios with 50% of teachers leaving the profession after 5 years.

    The odds that a gun would fall into a kids hand, or that a teacher would discharge the weapon accidentally, are way higher. This arming teachers idea is so stupid I can’t even believe it.

  6. Avatar mikey says:

    Russian mob beats all mobs, Mogi is boss of bosses; Russian mafia beat Israeli bo (which is part russian), it beats Italian mob, it beats Irish mob, it beats Chinese mob, the only thing it doesn’t beat yet is US/CIA Gulf Arab sunni mafia(both sunni and salafist factions)..yakuza kairetsu? PFFT bahahahah please dont make me laff.

  7. Avatar mikey says:

    Trump is already surrounded up to his fat neck by gun guys; Russian guys like Alexander Torshin, the deputy governor of Russia’s central bank, former senator and current member in Putin’s party- very close to Putin(and FSB), long time member and donor to the NRA(which gave Trump campaign $30 million in 2016).

    He also is a mob boss; according the Spanish police, Torshin instructed the Moscow-based Taganskaya mafia how to launder money in Spanish banks and real estate in Spain.

    In 2013, Torshin attended a conference in Moscow hosted by an ostensibly pro-gun rights native organization called The Right to Bear Arms, headed by a Russian national Marina Butina. She is close to Torshin because brought the former head of the NRA to her gun rights conference back in 2013 and she is effectively a liaison between the Trump administration and Russia/Putin.

    In 2014, after Crimea went to Russia, the US government extended sanctions against Russian automatic rifles like the AK47. The next day, the NRA issued a statement saying

    “The only decent product ever produced by the USSR was the AK-47. After the breakup of the USSR and the end of Cold War, Russia has continued to produce well-regarded AK-pattern rifles that have become popular among American gun owners … While the United States government blames the Ukrainian conflict for this latest move, gun control advocates will no doubt applaud the ban on…so-called “assault weapons.”

    There is another oligarch who is trying to open the US gun market to semi-automatic rifles; I can’t recall his name; he’s also close to Trump.

    Point is the NRA is ridden with Russian money(geez I thought Turkish and Israeli lobby were bad; difference is the Russian mob); so is Trump; and so is the FBI.

    Next we’ll find out Baskin Robbins uses Russian cows(from Chernobyl) for its ice cream!

  8. Avatar MacKenzie says:

    Speaking of gun violence killing children, where is our collective outrage over the Iraq war? Where is the demand to have trials for those who those who lied us into war over non-existent WMDs?

    Also where is the anger at Dubya, Obama and Trump for the killing of innocents by drone in these wars?

    Lastly, where is the anger that our politicians continue to push for more wars (e.g. Syria)? We get told “Assad gassed his own people” but do people know who “Nurse Nayirah” was? A 15 year old girl whose false testimony (given before the Congressional Human Rights Caucus on October 10, 1990) was widely publicized, and was cited numerous times by United States senators and President George H. W. Bush in their rationale to back Kuwait in the Gulf War. It turns out this random nurse just happened to be the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador to the US. You can view her false testimony (and brilliant acting job) on YouTube. (Keep this in mind when the MSM calls people crazy for considering the possibility that crisis actors were used in the Parkland shooting.)

    So we’ve had 2 wars against Iraq within 2 decades that were based on complete lies yet the media and the public is completely silent/ignorant of this? Where is Who What Why on this topic, by the way?

    • Avatar mikey says:

      All wars are based on lies; there is a class war on going, right now; based on lies of the American Dream; there is a war on drugs going on right now based on nothing but lies; there is a war on poverty, cancer, we got war all the time; we love the big lie and we fight wars for them.

    • Avatar Mackenzie says:

      Class War: The US has turned into a fascist country (we used to be much closer to the capitalist end of the spectrum). Fascism as in “the people (ostensibly) own the means of production but the government truly controls it via taxation and regulation”. Example: When the big banks lost money in the financial crisis they were bailed out. In a capitalist country they would’ve been allowed to fail. Fallout: Banks are bigger than ever and taking bigger risks than ever. And why wouldn’t they? They know government has their back if their investments turn south. Privatized profits, socialized losses is the moral hazard.

      Drug War: First off, the drug was is completely unconstitutional. Why did the government need a constitutional amendment to make alcohol illegal (and then legal again) but not drugs? The constitution (article I section 8) lists the enumerated powers of the federal government. If something is not mentioned then they don’t have that power. There is nothing listed that gives the federal government the power to make drugs illegal. That abuse aside, look at who profits from the drug war? Private prisons lobby the government to keep drug laws intact (incarceration is big business!) Also, civil asset forfeiture laws allow police to accuse your property of a crime. Since property doesn’t have the same rights as people, they can just seize it (“we think this is from drug sales!”) and make you sue to get it back.

      War on poverty: I think it’s more like a war on the poverty-stricken. People have been arrested for feeding the homeless. Collecting rainwater is illegal in certain places. And let’s not forget all the government policies that are CAUSING poverty. We can start with the debasement of the dollar. When more dollars are chasing the same amount of goods the result is rising prices. The federal reserve has more than quadrupled the money supply since the financial crisis of 2007-08. Next up is increasing the minimum wage. It sounds like a caring policy but all it does is make certain jobs illegal. If raising the minimum wage worked then why wouldn’t they raise it to $100 per hour! Businesses need to make a profit in order to exist. The higher the wages they have to pay, the higher the price they have to charge consumers. There are many other ways government causes poverty too but I don’t want my comment to be excessively long.

      War on cancer: I think there’s a war on curing cancer. It’s far more profitable to have endless treatments than to cure it. The federal government makes it extremely difficult to get new drugs to market. Only big pharma can afford all the rounds of testing required to get a drug approved and it’s illegal for people to use non-FDA approved drugs. Maybe this sounds like it’s not such a bad idea because, after all, doesn’t it take a huge company to solve such a big problem? Of course not! Jonas Salk came up with a polio vaccine. Alexander Fleming discovered penicillin.

      To steal a line from Reagan (who is guilty of big government btw), government is not the solution to our problems. Government is the CAUSE of our problems.
      But again, this all ties back into gun control. The biggest killer throughout history is governments (look up the word “Democide”). If we take the 2A for granted it is at our own peril.

  9. Avatar MacKenzie says:

    Are you suggesting that people should be disarmed and “trust the authorities” to protect them? Are you aware that 4 Broward County Sheriff’s Deputies were stationed outside the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School but didn’t enter the school to protect the students?

    • Avatar Russ Baker says:

      No. I’m really looking forward to you and grandma going in, guns blazing! It is SO reassuring.

    • Avatar MacKenzie says:

      To be honest, I’m not really a fan of guns but I absolutely don’t think we should take for granted that the 2A exists as a last line of defense against a tyrannical government.

      Maybe some people think that sounds like a “quaint” idea that no longer applies in the modern world? Well consider that we have “leaders” who have committed mass murder (by starting wars based on lies, killing innocents by drone, etc) and I’ve heard plenty of people compare Trump to Hitler. In fact, there’s even an article on Who What Why talking about if free speech has outlived it’s usefulness. Reminder to those who still care about the 1A – without the 2A there is no 1A.

      Side note: I noticed you didn’t respond to my point about the armed deputies not protecting the students.

    • Avatar mikey says:

      Mac there will be no armed revolution; I’m sorry and it really has nothing to do if we have guns or not; we like our steaks and being stars. Remember cypher? The revolution will have to be virtual/physical. There has to be a break; guns don’t matter. Behavior matters.

    • Avatar MacKenzie says:

      Mikey – I might agree with you if I didn’t see such aggressive gun-grabbing propaganda from the MSM. Immediately after these school shootings it’s the same old knee-jerk “you must ban guns!” rhetoric. Meanwhile how many of these school shooters are on psychotropic drugs? (hint: many) Why does THAT never get any discussion? Maybe it’s because of the money/influence of big-pharma.

      And again where is the discussion about the armed deputies who did nothing?! The American people are being told to disarm and presumably let the “authorities” take care of us. But how come that system didn’t work in this case? Because the person who cares the most about your safety is YOU! If there were an armed teacher who happened to be stuck inside the building during the shooting, do you think they would’ve done nothing?

    • Avatar Wes says:

      Of course, not being in uniform, it’s going to be difficult to tell the “armed teacher/citizen” from the shooter, so best to just kill them all.