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President Donald Trump in New York, NY, September 23, 2025. Photo credit: The White House / Flickr (PD)

In many ways, Donald Trump was his usual self in an interview that aired last night: dishonest, boastful, and obsessed with revenge. But the way in which he expressed his authoritarian ambitions is cause for grave concern. 

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There are plenty of takeaways from Donald Trump’s highly anticipated interview with 60 Minutes, which aired on Sunday night. Most importantly, it shows that he is not a man bound by norms, e.g., the long-standing norms that presidents are sane, at least somewhat honest, and don’t want to be dictators.

CBS, perhaps worried that it would have to pay Trump another bribe settle another frivolous lawsuit with Trump, managed to edit the 75-minute conversation in a way that makes the commander-in-chief sound at least somewhat coherent.

Therefore, we urge people to watch the raw footage or read the transcript of his conversation with ‘Norah O’Donnell.

To his credit, the president starts out well enough in discussing the US relationship with China and his tariffs.

Sure, there were plenty of lies, for example that he has secured $17 trillion in investments, and the usual self-aggrandizement (he claimed that he averted a nuclear war between India and Pakistan), but that was just normal Trump fare.

That changed when the topic turned to the state of the US economy, which the president proclaimed to be “the best … we ever had,” even though it is clearly ailing.

“You know, essentially we don’t have inflation,” Trump said. “I inherited the worst inflation in the history of our country. We don’t have infl— we’re down to 2 percent, even less than 2 percent.”

In reality, inflation is now higher than it was on Election Day, and it is trending upwards. In September, it was 3.0 percent, which is 0.6 points higher compared to the same point last year.

Trump also insisted that grocery prices are down, which is an easily disprovable lie.

What is more disconcerting at this point than a president who seems to be incapable of telling the truth is his mental state, his authoritarian ambitions, and questions about whether he actually knows what is going on in the country and who is making decisions in the White House.

Trump remains obsessed with his 2020 loss to Joe Biden.

He invoked the name of his predecessor more than 40 times in a little over an hour and often brought him up in answers totally unrelated to questions he was asked.

The president is equally preoccupied with taking revenge on anybody who had a hand in his two impeachments and multiple indictments.

Of course, he denied that this is happening when asked whether he instructed the Department of Justice to do so.

“No, and not in any way, shape or form,” said the man who wrote this:

Trump also left no doubt that he desires broad powers not granted to him by the Constitution.

For example, when asked about the upcoming Supreme Court hearing on whether he is allowed to impose tariffs on much of the world as long as he makes up fake emergencies, the president said the legislative branch shouldn’t be involved.

Here is what Article I, Section 8 of the Constitution has to say about that:

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States.

Even more troubling than him trying to usurp the power of the purse from Congress is that Trump is contemplating sending the Army, the Marines, or “whoever I want” into US cities to help with his mass deportation effort.

Apparently, even though federal agents are caught on tape every single day brutalizing brown people (or the bystanders documenting their use of excessive force), ICE’s methods are still too tame for Trump’s taste.

Asked about some of these raids (and the fact that they also sweep up citizens and legal residents), the president said he believes that they “haven’t gone far enough” and lamented that his goons have been “held back by … liberal judges that were put in by Biden and by [Barack] Obama.”

Finally, even though Trump pardoned crypto billionaire Changpeng Zhao last month, he claimed in the interview that he “doesn’t know who he is.”

As a refresher for the president, Zhao is the guy who pleaded guilty to enabling money laundering, including for terrorist groups, and whose companies have partnered with businesses linked to Trump’s family.

In other words, if Trump knew who he is (which we suspect), this pardon is incredibly shady.

If he actually didn’t, however, it raises the question of who put that pardon in front of the president and got him to sign it.

There is plenty more we could say about the interview. Some of it is disturbing, and some is amusing, for example, that Trump still doesn’t seem to understand the difference between asylum seekers and mental patients in insane asylums.

Overall, however, this interview is cause for grave concern and we urge all readers to read the unedited version and judge for themselves.

  • Klaus Marre is a senior editor for Politics and director of the Mentor Apprentice Program at WhoWhatWhy. Follow him on Bluesky @unravelingpolitics.bsky.social.

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