BREAKING NEWS: List of Withheld JFK Assassination Documents - WhoWhatWhy

BREAKING NEWS: List of Withheld JFK Assassination Documents

Here It Is — a Map to What We Can Still Learn

President John F. Kennedy prepares to deliver remarks  Photo credit:  John F. Kennedy Presidential Library and Museum / White House
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Exciting news: WhoWhatWhy has obtained the complete list of 3,603 secret documents on the Kennedy assassination still being held by the US government. (Or, to be precise, what it admits to still holding.)

Now we can at least get a peek at what they have been hiding.

The list was obtained in a Freedom of Information Act request by FOIA specialist Michael Ravnitzky, who alerted us.

The complete list is below. You’ll note that some documents are briefly characterized by subject, while others are less clearly identified.

The government has promised to release as many documents as possible in October, 2017, the 25th anniversary of the JFK Records Act, in which Congress mandated that all efforts be made to release everything in Washington’s possession unless an overriding case can be made for withholding in the national interest.

Some — perhaps most — of these documents could be released at that time. Then again, they may be further withheld. The CIA in particular is likely to argue that some are just too sensitive to be made public.

Still, knowing their subject matter makes it easier to press for disclosure, and to hold the government accountable by insisting it justify any continued withholdings.

Those who wish to look at the list should be forewarned that it’s a bit like looking at hieroglyphics. Most of the names and brief references will mean something only to a very few.

Among the documents that caught our eye:

•  Lee Harvey Oswald’s CIA “201 File.” 201 files contain personality assessments

•  Records on David Morales, David Atlee Phillips, E. Howard Hunt, William King Harvey and others considered by top researchers prime suspects for participation in the planning and implementation of Kennedy’s murder.

•  Documents on New Orleans oddball David Ferrie, District Attorney Jim Garrison, Jackie Kennedy, members of the Warren Commission staff, Jack Ruby, various anti-Castro Cubans and much much more.

•  Tax returns of Michael Paine, who with his wife Ruth provided housing and more for the Oswalds — Ruth also got Lee a job in the Texas School Book Depository — from which he purportedly shot Kennedy; Michael worked for the defense contractor Bell Helicopter.

Click here to view the full document (it’s a long one!)

Note: due to an editing error, an earlier version of this article incorrectly referenced several topics that were not found in the papers. It has been updated to remove those references.

Related front page panorama photo credit: Adapted by WhoWhatWhy from David Morales (, David Atlee Phillips (Shane McBryde / YouTube), E. Howard Hunt (House Select Committee on Assassinations / Wikimedia), William King Harvey (

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130 responses to “BREAKING NEWS: List of Withheld JFK Assassination Documents”

  1. Avatar Tony says:

    Not clear how many docs remain. Approximately 2800 released. Some say total archive is 3600, some say 36000. Anybody know?

  2. Avatar jellyrajah says:

    There is one thing for sure. The ONLY reason for concealing this evidence is to protect the guilty – the REAL assassins. And every individual who has participated in this coverup for 54 years is guilty of MISPRISION OF A FELONY -that is, concealing the evidence of a felony. And that is in itself a felony. Every individual who has worked to conceal this evidence needs to be identified and prosecuted as an accessory after the fact to the assassination.

  3. Avatar Robert Miller says:

    Here’s the document I want to see, as described in John Armstrong’s HARVEY AND LEE:

    “In January 1953 the HUAC in New York made reference to a “Mrs. M. Oswald”
    in a CIA Office of Security file. The file contained references to 1941, Nazi’s, and NewJersey. Judge John Tunheim, of the Assassination Records Review Board (ARRB ), wrote to Henry Hyde in an attempt to get the HUAC files on Lee and Marguerite Oswald released, but his request was refused.”

    In 1953 Lee and Marguerite Oswald went to New York City for “testing”. According to the official story Marguerite and Lee had never been to New Jersey before then. So what does “1941, Nazis and New Jersey” have to do with people who’d lived in either New Orleans or Texas?

    In 1941 before the US’s entry into WWII there was a raid on American Bund property in northern New Jersey by the FBI. How does that relate to Lee Oswald?

    Armstrong’s book strongly puts forth the theory that there were two Oswalds, starting in 1953, the kid from Texas and a boy in New York City who was born into a home that spoke Russian. By that theory, of merging two Oswalds identities while still children would have required two mothers.

    We know nothing about the faux Marguerite. Perhaps earlier she had worked as an asset for the FBI under another name. Or perhaps in 1941 she was a member of the Bund but was flipped.

    In any case, it would open up new vistas in the story.

  4. Avatar afrocyprus says:

    When I think of JFK, MLK, 9/11 which I believe the USA govts had a hand in , why the American people out demonstrating, lobbying their Congressmen, kicking up such a stink, this would never be allowed to happen in the UK let alone Europe.

    It seems people are so suppressed in the USA – that people high office can get away with Blue Murder. the USA is just beyond me.

  5. Avatar Jim Rose says:

    Right off the bat I see they have a tape of William K. Harvey interview. Just to hear the man’s voice would be very interesting.

  6. Avatar David says:

    Someone really needs to learn about anything good that may have happened for Jack Ruby after the assassination, and find out who took care of his family. Did anyone he cared about wind up doing really well? He died of terminal cancer almost immediately after killing JFK. He was probably desperate at that point and someone offered him the deal. Find out who got lucky or who took care of his family and you’ll be that much closer to finding out who was involved in JFK’s assassination.

  7. Avatar David says:

    We need to find out what was given to Jack Ruby to get him.

    • Avatar dave says:

      Given to him for what purpose? To give him cancer? I think living a fast and dangerous lifestyle more than anything else.

    • Avatar ThisKeepsMeUpAtNight says:

      How about the cancers that Judyth Vary Baker helped create originally to kill Castro, under supervision of Dr. Ochsner and the famous Female Cancer Doctor, who died in the mid-sixties?

  8. Avatar Douglas McIntyre says:

    The key thing for JFK researchers in 2017 and beyond is keep on investigating. Find a topic that is under-researched and dig into it until it is exhausted. Continue to push the outside of the envelope that is the combined knowledge gleaned about the assassination and cover-ups developed since the shootings in Dallas. Keep the pressure on elected representatives, the National Archives, Justice Department, CIA, ONI etc, by keeping those FOI requests coming. Drown them in a never ending hurricane of paperwork until it becomes more compelling for those agencies to release documents than it has been to conceal them for so many years.

    I agree with a poster below that everyone should read Phillip T. Nelson’s excellent book LBJ: The Mastermind of the JFK Assassination. Other than nearly frustrating his readers by spending too long establishing the bona fide of LBJ’s corrupt character and methods, plus a few unfortunate typos and incorrect words, this is an excellent first book for those new to the LBJ theory of Kennedy’s assassination and cover-up.

    • Avatar Jim Robinson says:

      Limited hangout.

    • Avatar Steve Kasarsky says:

      Douglas, I have written a manuscript re: The Dark-Complexioned Mystery Man. I believe I know his identity. He was closest spectator to JFK at time of shooting. The man with his rt. arm in air. Also, sat next to Umbrella Man with possible radio. If interested please email me

    • Avatar andrew wilson says:

      Mac Wallace was given the contract to kill jfk, Ruby supplied the German made rifles, it wasn’t Ruby shooting Oswald, but Ruby was still involved.

  9. Avatar Stinky says:

    Makes one think what else the suits lie about.

  10. Avatar Roxana Desmedt says:

    Think you being quite naif about the CIA… and about the thesis, anti-thesis that is represented by both major political parties in the US.

  11. Avatar Roxana Desmedt says:

    Watch DARK LEGACY DOCU – George Bush And The Murder Of John Kennedy.

  12. Avatar Wise Guy says:

    Where exactly! I would love to write him a letter. Since he has been out of prison, I’m sure he wants to stay out of the limelight.
    Thanks, Eric

    • Avatar Barton Woolf says:

      I have it on excellent authority that Mr. Files has gone underground. He and his close associate and friend, Bruce Brychek, went into hiding so that he, James Files could write his memoirs. He also has an ace up his sleeve with his posession of either Charles Nicoletti or Giancana diary which the government has been trying to confiscate ever since JFK’s assassination. This diary has too many names and dates to implicate those in the know about a great many things which would blow wide open the truth.

  13. Avatar Carlo says:

    How’s Jimmy looking?

  14. I met James Files at the Clarksville TN VA Clinic. He denied being him. He lives at the end of a cul-de-sac in a trailer park.

  15. Avatar jeffersonian says:

    LBJ. Read Philip Nelson’s LBJ Mastermind of the Kennedy assassination.

  16. Avatar Rmm says:

    And what about the ‘ bubble’ left on the plane?

  17. Avatar Platopus says:

    I am glad we have persons with the energy and interest to review these files, let’s hope they miss nothing! The truth would go so far in resurrecting our nation.

  18. Avatar Charlie Books says:

    Let’s understand that the CIA of today is not the CIA of the 1950s-1970s period. We should not tar the current CIA with the maniacs of its past. I think that the executives over at CIA would love to open all the files on JFK assassination but it’s the politicians who don’t want to go that route. I would also bet you the farm that most of those politicians are Democrats and probably from the South. God Save the USA. Release all the files and be done with this moral impediment on America once and for all.

    • Avatar Kelly Harper says:

      Absolutely agree.

    • Avatar Groker says:

      Mr. Books,

      Firstly, do you actually believe that in the sixties the CIA members were more deadly than in the present day? The “executives” would love to open them?

      Whatever one’s perspective on the JFK assassination, we will never know all the specifics, and, our country will very likely never recover from the situation.

    • Avatar dishatin says:

      Too many years have passed. I was 11 yrs. old when he was murdered. America then was a totally different country from how it is today. Few people then could or would believe the Government assassinated our beloved President. If you believed this was true, you were a ‘conspiracy nut’…it’s too late.

      Our nation today is forever a different country; its people ignorant; anti-science; anti-intellectual; coarse, stressed out; and the elite couldn’t care less as this crowd are nothing but social Darwinists. Without wealth, you are a sub-human. The Viet Nam War split the heart and gut of our nation and we never, ever recovered nor shall we. They murdered our President; our MLK; Malcolm X; and Presidential Nominee RFK. We have been shell shocked – nothing has healed the very deep pain. The subsequent generations never knew President Kennedy, are barely taught history, and likely know only salacious cr*p from the covers of National Inquirer. At the time JFK was our President, the pop. of our country was approximately 120 million; the USA ranked close to if not number 1 in high school education in comparison with all Western democracies; today, our population is greater than 350 million and we rank 41st.

      I have been trying for 54 years to find out who killed our President and I hope to find out before I die. It won’t make any difference to the citizens of this country in 2017. However, it will be important for the world to know who murdered President Kennedy. He was a beacon of hope and dreams to the citizens around the world.

    • Avatar Jeff Martinez says:

      Why would Democrats not want to open all the files? Many believe JFK was assassinated because he was trying to make peace with the Soviets, Castro, and stay out of Vietnam. He refused to preemptively strike the Soviet Union with nukes, even though he was being pressured to do so. It was those on the right that thought he was a Communist (or at least soft on the commies).

    • Avatar Jim Robinson says:

      You have answered your own question.

    • Avatar Bob Wilkens says:

      You mean today’s CIA that lied their asses off about WMD in Iraq?

    • Avatar Domenico says:

      I think the CIA told George W. Bush that they couldn’t find WMD’s in Iraq. It was Bush who convinced if not lied to Congress. Read Bugliosi’s The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder.

    • Avatar Mary says:

      CIA did NOT lie. There were CHEMICAL weapons of mass destruction. I believe it was Cheney that misled Bush and everyone else to believe there were NUCLEAR weapons in Iraq.

    • Avatar Domenico says:

      Did they specify or restrict WMD’s to nuclear weapons only? In any event, they never found any whatsoever.

    • Avatar Foreign_Policy says:

      You are correct about chemical weapons. There were also biological weapons containing Mycoplasma fermentans, Brucella, Anthrax, and other things. But the problem here is- WE SUPPLIED THEM! That is why after the Gulf War we see the emergence of Gulf War Illness- which was mostly the result of the devastating Mycoplasma but in some cases combined with chemical exposure. Dr. Garth Nicolson wrote an excellent book on these illnesses called PROJECT DAY LILY. Mycoplasma fermentans incognitus was a genetically enhanced bacterium- an ancient bacteria enhanced with a crystalline substance taken from Brucella to make the Mycoplasma more pathogenic and immune suppressing- probably the proteins OspA and ospB. They were testing this in prisons around the U.S. and now tons of people are infected- so criminal…

    • Avatar Domenico says:

      You should ask Jefferson Morley that question (that the CIA would like to release all files).

  19. Avatar dave rogers says:

    Since JFK Wanted to disband the CIA, how much do you think going to be released ?
    Points of interest
    The speech that got JFK killed,
    James files admitted assassin,
    Photos of JHW Bush in Dallas that day but he doesn’t remember.

  20. So, we are not allowed to mention that little nation from the middle east that was involved in JFK’s assassination and 9/11. I get it now.

  21. LBJ’s best friend, D Harold Byrd owned the Texas Book Depository. LBJ’s
    ex mistress said he knew about it the night before and told her it would
    be different tomorrow. LBJ is on tape as is Jack Ruby pointing to LBJ
    knowing there were “others”. These globalists who rule the USA now did

  22. If my post is not approved by WHWHATWHY I will expose you as globalist frauds.

  23. Avatar Frank von Winkhorst says:

    It continues to amaze me that the government can still claim that Oswald was a lone nut while keeping documents secret that, if their contention were true, would not exist. In short, why would they have 1000s of pages of documents about someone who just happened to be at the right place at the right time and be in possession of the right rifle? Other than a few documents related to his time in the Soviet Union and his activities with the Fair Play for Cuba Committee (while associating with anti-Castro Cubans and anti-Soviet Russians), there should be a real scarcity of any documents related to him.

  24. Avatar Ricardo Ramirez Sr. says:

    A “201” file is a military personnel record, training, assignments, promotions, decorations etc not personality or psych, that would be in health records.

  25. Avatar U3O8 says:

    I noticed your speak to “truth to power” only as long as you deem it worthy of what truth you want to publish. Controlling the narrative as usual. How self anointed, self righteous and 1st amendment of you. I too, have had legitimate truth revealing posts that were removed here. In fact they were relevant & quite specific to the Climate Change article regarding the HAARP & EISCAT Radar programs that were factual & truthful. I guess the reality is that the truth of the US Government controlling weather via manipulating the troposphere weather streams is too painful a truth to reveal here. Your continued censorship & hypocritical dichotomy is noted yet again.
    Reductio ad absurdum…
    Panem et Circuses

  26. Avatar PlanB says:

    Release the IRS filings of Oswald. Sure would be interesting.

    • Avatar Frank von Winkhorst says:

      This would involve violation of Oswald’s (and presumably Marina’s) privacy. IRS documents and returns are normally not available to anyone unless they represent evidence in a court case. There is good reason for this.

    • Avatar Domenico says:

      In normal cases yes, but in the interests of justice and the historical record for the good of all citizens and the nation, if those tax returns reveal that he had earnings from the CIA or FBI or the U.S. Government, that might help figure out the truth behind the JFK Assassination. Plus after so many years for a deceased person, does it matter? They exhumed his grave – wasn’t that an invasion of his privacy too?

  27. Avatar Ramon F Herrera says:

    I have a question: If the purpose of this site is to “Speak Truth to Power”, how come you keep on removing my posts?

    I duplicated the JFK Collection Database and cloned their web site. While I claim that this is completely legal (and I am sure that ACLU will agree to defend my actions), I could get into real trouble.

    If that does not qualify as Speaking Truth to Power, I don’t know what does …

    Meanwhile, what Mr. Michael Ravnitzky did is commendable, long overdue, but if he doesn’t follow up and ask about the fact that 2/3 of records are missing from the FOIA response, he is not speaking truth to anybody.

    • Avatar Ramon F Herrera says:

      Let me put it this way. How is the world different before and after this FOIA was submitted and (arguably) approved? The information that Michael was looking for has been available for years in a public web site.

    • Avatar Comments editor says:

      The site policy does not permit publication of links to other sites from within the comments section, and we perhaps need to make this clear – to all our readers.

    • Avatar Ramon F Herrera says:

      Ah! You have the monopoly of the Truth yet and expect our donations.

      Have you considered relocating to Saudi Arabia?

    • Avatar Ramon F Herrera says:

      I hope you realize that what you are doing is equivalent to book burning.

      The main irony is that you have the gall to include the word “Truth”. You have no idea about its meaning.

  28. Avatar Jeff Grotke says:

    Looking through it, I notice they still will not release documents about Nosenko. Nosenko claimed that he could provide important negative information about the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, affirming that he had personally handled a review of the case of Lee Harvey Oswald, who had lived in the Soviet Union prior to the Kennedy assassination. Nosenko said that, while the KGB had conducted surveillance of Oswald, it had never tried to recruit him. (But he was just a defector, right?)

    • Avatar Domenico says:

      Yes. It could reveal that they thought he was a CIA agent (or fake defector), and for good reasons.

    • Avatar rob bozzuto says:

      I think he was a defector but there was also a question if he was a double agent. I believe the KGB knew more about Oswald than they told.

  29. Avatar Broos says:

    In the Federal Government, a 201 file is A (CIA) employee’s personnel file!

  30. Avatar Jeff Grotke says:

    You only have to look at the list of topics covered to know that these documents are smoking guns related to the real facts, as Russ has detailed them, and that the E. Howard Hunt confession is and was truthful. The persons discussed by Hunt are the very same ones whose information was too sensitive to release, even though for years they told us is was just irrelevant stuff that happened to be confidential.

  31. Avatar CHUCKMAN says:

    If, as we are asked to believe, the assassination of President Kennedy was the work of one disgruntled man, where is the issue of national security?

    -Bertrand Russell, after reading the Warren Report.

    This profound question has never been answered.

    • Avatar Domenico says:

      Exactly. If the assassination was by a nutty loner, why all the secrecy and why does it involve many key intelligence agents?

    • Avatar rob bozzuto says:

      To say we know everything on the subject is way underestimating the situation. Oswald got his job from Mike Paine, who was employed by the CIA. All the pieces are there just putting them all in place.

    • Avatar rob bozzuto says:

      Early on alot of top level people were saying that the Cubans were to blame but I believe that was just so everyone would take their eyes off the real culprits.

    • Avatar rob bozzuto says:

      And they were asked if they wanted extra security and the secret service told them its ‘already handled’.

  32. Avatar Bob Dinitto says:

    What possible reason could the gov have for withholding these old documents for so long except to hide some form of government malfeasance? Just sayin…

    • Avatar Ricardo Ramirez Sr. says:

      To protect the guilty even the few still alive and their heirs!

    • Avatar Frank von Winkhorst says:

      Remember, the original perpetrators may be dead, but there has been a continuing coverup and all of those folks involved in that coverup are themselves guilty of complicity after the fact. There’s also the problem that the disclosure of illegal methods used by the varying agencies involved would open up the question of whether they are still using such methods. In short, Ed Lansdale may be dead, but those who continue his work are very much alive.

    • Avatar Domenico says:

      Very good Frank!

    • Avatar Jim Robinson says:

      After Bush sr. leaves the stage is there anyone involved still left alive ??

  33. Avatar Ramon F Herrera says:

    Hello folks:

    I spent a non-trivial part of last summer duplicating the National Archives database, using a technique known as “web scrapping”. I also made a clone of their web site.

    This is the official web site:

    http://www.nara .gov/cgi-bin/starfinder.exe/0?path=jfkcnew.txt&id=demo&pass=&OK=OK

    and this, the clone that I made:

    http://s18283067.onlinehome-server .com/~ramon/jfk-collection

    (Notice that my copy says “Not the National Archives”).

    You need to remove the space before .gov and .com from the 2 URLs above.

    • Avatar Ramon F Herrera says:

      There are 3 differences between the inferior government website and the one owned by We The People. I added the following 3 features:

      (1) The field “RIF Record Number” allows you to perform searches by Record Number.

      (2) The field “Current Status” allows you to find out how many records are being withheld in full or partially

      (3) The output of any query shows the total number of pages.

    • Avatar Ramon F Herrera says:

      If you go to YOUR website:

      http://s18283067.onlinehome-server .com/~ramon/jfk-collection

      and type “POSTPONED IN FULL” in the “Current Status” field, you will find out that the actual number of such documents is 9,718.

      Note: Remove the space before .com from the URL above.

    • Avatar Ramon F Herrera says:

      It is possible to extract the 3,603 record numbers from the crappy file obtained by FOIA. They can be matched against the 9,718 that are POSTPONED IN FULL and find the 6,115 which are not acknowledged.

      If anybody knows computer programming and is interested in this task, send me an e-mail to ramon@dealey-plaza .org

      (Remove the space from my address)

    • Avatar Ramon F Herrera says:

      If you want to have your personal copy of the full JFK Collection database, help yourself! It is here:

      https://goo .gl/bGHuOB

      Note: Remove the space before .gl from the above URL.

  34. Avatar Ramon F Herrera says:


  35. Avatar David says:

    The notion that there is some document, hidden away, that will break the Kennedy case wide open and reveal the dark underbelly of a “conspiracy” is simply foolish. If such a document DID exist – and those who carried out this assassination and cover-up are as powerful as all the conspiracy theorists seem to agree – then, wouldn’t you think they would have the power to make such an incriminating document disappear? Couldn’t they afford a paper shredder? The conspiracy mongers want us to believe that fingerprints, rifles and bullets have been planted, documents forged, photographs and films altered, testimony coerced and an autopsy that deliberately misrepresented their medical findings – yet, they also want us to believe that there is a piece of paper that slipped through the cracks and reveals everything. Simply stupid! The truth is this: Lee Harvey Oswald assassinated President Kennedy. Anybody with an ounce of common sense and has done the slightest bit of responsible research into this case can see that.

    • Avatar Ramon F Herrera says:

      David: Go to your high school and demand a full refund.

    • Avatar derryn johnson says:

      Yes its comments like that which come from people in the know, same as the JFK conspiracy group on Facebook – they are part of the cover up.

    • Avatar CHUCKMAN says:

      Sorry, David,you just do not know what you are talking about.

    • Avatar Sonny Wade says:

      Hi David, Most of us stupid people don’t think anything blatantly obvious will be released. It might be something innocuous like a report outlining a call from George Bush suggesting someone he knows might be responsible for the assassination. And then Bush can’t recall where he was and his wife writes a ridiculous letter to her family which serves to distance GHWB from Dallas as much as possible. Harmless documents. Hopefully, we find more harmless documents. Nothing obvious will be left.

    • Avatar Domenico says:

      David, it’s not what ‘conspiracy mongers’ say, but where the evidence leads us. The so-called evidence has been called into question. It cannot stand on its own.

      For example, contrary to the Warren Commission, the HSCA found that Ruby had significant underworld connections. Therefore, to believe that he didn’t silence Oswald to prevent a trial or discovery of the truth, is so naive or unrealistic. I don’t think there will be a note that says “We the undersigned, hereby conspire to assassinate the treasonous John F. Kennedy”. However, there might be other sensitive information that implies or suggests that certain agents could’ve been involved in a plot to kill the President and/or frame Oswald.

    • Avatar Robert Macfarlane says:

      I take offense to the term “conspiracy monger.” The proper term should be “historian.” As in, “one who researches and discusses historical facts.” And as we historians have so presented, the facts uncovered and revealed to this day are not “naive or unrealistic.” We follow the evidence wherever it takes us. My personal conversations with the “grassy knoll shooter” bears this out. So has the Warren Commission’s so-called hard facts, which crumble under independent examination, i.e. magic bullet, and lone nut assassin.

      Curiosity is the byproduct of Oswald’s 201 file. Why did it take 13 months to generate his “defector” file? Because he wasn’t really a defector. In reality, Oswald was a spy on assignment.

      We historians can be a pesky lot, asking questions that have unpleasant answers – and disputing the establishment’s (not very) independent investigation body the Warren Commission. It goes on and on.

    • Avatar Domenico says:

      Hear, hear Robert!

    • Avatar Domenico says:

      Also want to add that, since all of those shady characters are dead, there may be nobody else around who’s interested in destroying files, so there could be smoking guns left.

      An exception perhaps, may be GHWB, who may have removed any reference to himself as having a connection to the CIA in those earlier days – not that this means he was a co-conspirator, just a contractor or asset.

    • Avatar kentex1146 says:

      Common sense? And we’re to believe that you have an ounce?

    • Avatar old golfer says:

      Most of the experts I have read say, without doubt, JFK was triangulated in a very professional hit.

    • Avatar Frank von Winkhorst says:

      The Chicago plot from November 2 of that year involved a 4-man hit team. Since all other details of the plot were essentially identical, one has to assume that the November 22 event also involved four men with high powered rifles (not the medium powered Mannlicher-Carcano).

    • Avatar Frank von Winkhorst says:

      The problem with your argument, specifically your snarky remark about affording a paper shredder, is that the folks involved, like Allen Dulles and Ed Lansdale, were no longer employed in an official capacity with the CIA. The lower level folks were presumably never directly on the CIA payroll, folks like Ruby, Tippit, and any Cubans or mob personnel. So none of these folks would have had the opportunity to use a shredder.
      As for your other suggestions, specifically those regarding any “fingerprints, rifles and bullets … planted, documents forged,
      photographs and films altered, testimony coerced and an autopsy that
      deliberately misrepresented their medical findings,” all of these contentions are supported by massive evidence gathered over 50+ years by independent researchers, most of whom made very little money from their efforts, despite your–again snarky–remark about “conspiracy mongers.” This is another false innuendo propagated by folks like you who have not bothered to look at the actual evidence available.

    • Avatar Frank von Winkhorst says:

      If anyone has any doubts about the degree to which the medical evidence has been jiggered, I would suggest going to Bing Video and typing in “Doug Horne.” You will find a 6-hour+ presentation by Horne based on his 5-volume book, Inside the Assassination Records Review Board. The evidence is quite damning.

    • Avatar Platopus says:

      …click you heels and repeat ‘there’s no place like home…there’s no place like home…’ David, please take your own advice but not with the evidence that the authorities provided, it was a hit job from the top and kept in secret, they had to cover up their doings because the American people would not stand for it had we known our own CIA / FBI were involved! Back then men were men.

  36. Avatar Barbaracvm says:

    I am more interested in releasing all of the POW / MIA documents; especially the ones John McCain and John Kerry have ‘classified, top secret’ files.

  37. Avatar beijingyankee says:

    Until the American people come to the bottom of the JFK coup, the government is illegitimate and rogue.

    • Avatar gingercake5 says:

      You’re right. It was a coup. If this will be a real document dump next year, all the people who were involved in the plot (who are still alive) will be safely living in another country.

    • Avatar Jeff Grotke says:

      If it had been a coup then you would have seen other leaders in that faction killed, like Robert Kennedy, or Martin Luther King, but not that never happened, right?

    • Avatar gingercake5 says:

      They didn’t want to make it obvious. But Johnson was able to bring in many terrible progressive policies that ruined the country and that affect the US today. Kennedy was the last good Democrat. He was against a lot of cabal policies, even the CIA and the FED. They were involved in his take-down. Progressive sounds so nice, but is communist and “run” by the cabal. They planned for over 100 years the destruction of the country. They have their fingers in everything, now even Common Core and the removal of morality from society (through music and movies).

  38. Avatar $5699946 says:

    Dark Legacy: George Bush And The Murder Of John Kennedy

  39. Avatar Hawk620 says:

    If you haven’t done so, read James Douglass, ‘JFK and the Unspeakable’, and Peter Janney, ‘Mary’s Mosaic’.

    • Avatar Kenneth says:

      Supplement these books with Corsi’s “Who Really Killed Kennedy”, Gibson’s “JFK: Battling Wall Street” and “The Kennedy Assassination Cover-up”. Added Mellon’s “Our Man In
      Haiti” and Marr’s “Crossfire – Revisited and Updated” for better continuity and understanding.

      Then reference JFK and the Federal Reserve on the net. Remember what Mary essentially told Timothy Leary (112363): “They couldn’t control him anymore… He (JFK) was
      changing too fast, He was learning too much”. The “keepers of the keys” or “powers to be” couldn’t handle him any longer, despite all of their impressive lackey organizations, stooges
      and within and around the Beltway of D.C., Manhattan Island and Texas.

      All the rest is just demographics and geography by convenience.

  40. Avatar steve k says:

    Has anyone ever wondered why the government never investigated the closest spectator to JFK as he was being shot…The dark complexioned mystery man? I believe I know this man’s identity and have informed the FBI in a manuscript and they have never responded. Please go to a copy of “The Killing of a President” by Robert Groden and check out this guy who surely seems to be up to something. He is the man with his right arm in the air as the limo passes and he is also the guy sitting on the curb with another man dubbed “Umbrella Man”. If interested in my research please click…..

    • Avatar Joseph Zach says:

      you refer t ‘the dark complected [sic] man’ . there’s a video on you tube showing him limping away across the inner green area, after him and ‘umbrella man’ both got up and went in separate directions. UM went towards where Zapruder allegedly filmed the murder.

    • Avatar derryn johnson says:

      I know the man you are talking about, would love to know your theory.

  41. Avatar Tommy Sparks says:

    Your article mentions Michael and Ruth Paine and how Ruth was the one who got Oswald a job at the Book Depository. This would strongly imply that Ruth was part of the conspiracy or at least a useful dupe, which I find improbable. I think it would be worthwhile to research in detail how Ruth Paine found out about a job opening at the Book Depository. Somehow the conspirators had to get Oswald to be in the vicinity of Dealey Plaza on November 22. This difficulty makes me doubt there was a conspiracy. However, if Michael Paine’s tax returns show he had a relationship with the government besides working for Bell Helicopter, that would be compelling.
    Just wanted to mention that I was born and raised in Fort Worth and worked with a woman who knew Ruth Paine. My coworker told me she didn’t think Ruth Paine had anything to do with the assassination and was just trying to help the Oswalds. Also, Bell Helicopter was and is a major employer in Fort Worth, so it means nothing to say someone works for Bell Helicopter.

    • Avatar Sonny Wade says:

      Hi Tommy, I think it is necessary to look at the possibility that the conspirators had several potential patsies in place and went with whichever scenario unfolded best to fit a pre-determined narrative. Oswald was on the front steps of the TSBD when the shooting occurred and remained in the area of the second floor lunchroom when police arrived. He was the best choice to take the fall but had he chosen to miss work that day, cases for other patsies would have been ready to go. I am sure most of these individuals had some sort of affiliation with the CIA and the FBI and probably had no idea what they were being prepared for. The Oswalds had an interesting group of handlers taking an interest in them and providing help like George DeMohrenschildt.

    • Avatar Tommy Sparks says:

      Hi Sonny,

      It is possible that the Paines had some sort of affilation with US intelligence, but all indications are that Oswald was working at the Book Depository because a neighbor of Ruth Paine recommended it. Of course, the Paines knew DeMohrenschildt, who I believe introduced them to the Oswalds. One wonders why Michael Paine’s tax returns are still secret.

    • Avatar NativeNewYawker says:

      touche. They (Paines) were involved. Worked for the CIA.(plants)

    • Avatar CHUCKMAN says:

      The Paines are a great mystery. We do know they had some connections to CIA.

      Mrs. Paine got Oswald his job at the Book Depository.

      Also, one of the better witnesses after the assasination saw a station wagon picking up running men in the area.

      That station wagon description very much resembled what Ruth Paine drove.

      There are other suspicious characters too, especially George de Mohrenschildt. He was an odd soldier of fortune type who spoke Russian, was definitely used at times by CIA to chart areas supposedly of oil interest.

      He went out of his way to befriend Oswald which is so odd because de Mohrenschildt was a highly cultivated man who had lived in many places and spoke several languages.

      He supposedly committed suicide, but the circumstances could just as well be explaned by his being “suicided.”

    • Avatar Ginko says:

      Arthur M. Young, the designer of Bell Helicopter’s first helicopter, was also an influential occult-influenced philosopher. Young married artist Ruth Forbes of the Boston Forbes family, a great-granddaughter of Ralph Waldo Emerson. Ruth was also a close personal friend of Mary Bancroft, devoted student of Carl Jung, and mistress to Allen Dulles and later to Henry Luce.

      Ruth Forbes Paine’s first husband, George Lyman Paine Jr. was a friend of E. Howard Hunt, one of the Watergate “plumbers,” and was also suspected of involvement in the JFK assassination. Ruth and Paine were also the parents of Michael Paine, who married Ruth Hyde, and who together became notable after the assassination of JFK because of his acquaintance with Lee Harvey Oswald. Michael and Ruth Paine met Oswald and his wife Marina at a party on February 22 1963 where they had been invited by George de Mohrenschildt. It was Ruth Paine who helped Lee get his job at the Texas School Book Depository while his wife Marina and child continued to live with her in Irving, Texas. When the assassination occurred it was the Paines who led the police to where Oswald hid his rifle, and provided much evidence such as some of the famous photos of Oswald posing with his rifle, and so forth.

    • Avatar derryn johnson says:

      Well they were going to shoot JFK in Chicago weren’t they ? I could have place wrong but I have read they had other places at the ready just in case Dallas didn’t happen

    • Avatar NativeNewYawker says:

      Yes, Chicago was a city for the kill and so was Miami.

    • Avatar CHUCKMAN says:

      Absolutely, similar plots were uncovered in both places previously.

      Interestingly, both involved shooting him as the limo was slowed down by a curve.

    • Avatar old golfer says:

      And a turn that sharp was against secret service policy. Only time in our history that has happened.

    • Avatar oatwillie says:

      The Paines owned a station wagon (green and white) that a deputy said he saw (Roger Craig) Oswald get into after leaving book dep. Oswald heatedly said, don’t try to involve the Paines in this..!

    • Avatar Domenico says:

      You need to look at Barry Krusch’s ‘Impossible: The Case Against Lee Harvey Oswald’. I can’t remember which of his 3 volumes covers this, but there was an important telephone call overheard by an operator between Michael and Ruth Paine which the Warren Commission covered up by changing the date to make it look ‘after-the-fact’. When the original telephone record was found, it reveals that it was an earlier call, which implied advance knowledge of Oswald’s arrest. This would suggest some sort of complicity by the Paines, who had Intelligence connections.

  42. Avatar archer says:
    This link should bring you to article, it has ten parts, this I think is the third, scroll down to bottom and select other parts when finished reading. This is about the best coverage I’ve read on the murder of JFK.

  43. Avatar NotYet56 says:

    We’ll most likely get the usual blacked out papers with the claim of classified info.

    • Avatar gingercake5 says:

      Right. They won’t want to show all the connections to people who are still alive.

    • Avatar derryn johnson says:

      Yes, I agree, maybe we need to look at what’s not being said, I have seen a video and I am sure David Ferrie was a shooter

    • Avatar oatwillie says:

      DF? How?

    • Avatar derryn johnson says:

      Because I have looked at it closely and although it’s not a clear image there’s enough to recognize him. Also his actions, just after being interviewed by Garrison. Look at the video – I haven’t got a link but there’s not that many videos of the assassination. On youtube there’s a video that shows the gunmens’ locations and when you see the video it is clear.

    • Avatar derryn johnson says:

      Would love to you know your opinion.

    • Avatar oatwillie says:

      I’m open. Just haven’t heard it before.

    • Avatar derryn johnson says:

      did you get my link? In the film JFK I remember they portrayed David Ferry as a freeked out little man and when Garrison interviewed him he was going on about protection and stuff, then he ended up dead and it just stuck in my head then last year (November) I was looking over things again and I came across that video of the shooters positions and when I saw him I new who it was straight away. Have you seen the video where they have tested it for sound and counted about ten shots going off from about six different positions, I am sure the one man who told the truth was Lee Harvey Oswold, Im not sure that that Mrs Kennedy was innocent in it either, Im not saying she had a hand in it but I believe she had knowledge of it going to happen but if she did have a part in it, I wouldn’t be surprised at all.

    • Avatar mg says:

      Derryn, David Ferrie was in court in New Orleans with Carlos Marchello on 11-22. He then went on his suspicious trip to Houston. He also frantically tried to destroy photo evidence linking him with Oswald and he tried to find his library card that he had lent to Oswald. He was a conspirator but not a shooter.

    • Avatar derryn johnson says:

      As I say I have seen a video that leads me to believe other wise, I have left a link on here somewhere, you may be right, but I’m basing my thinking on what I am seeing rather than what the government tell us.

  44. Avatar angryspittle says:

    Did his speech at American University seal his fate?

    • Avatar DavidMyers says:

      Topped it off. It was already decided but this was the icing on the cake or the proverbial straw that broke the camel’s back.

    • Avatar archer says:

      Is that the one in ’62 when he mentioned the “shadow government” and “deep state”?

    • Avatar angryspittle says:

      It was August 63.

    • Avatar harry freeloaderII says:

      No, it was in June of 1963 and the powers-that-be had already decided that he should be removed from office, probably after the Missile Crisis of Oct. ’62. They realized he could not be controlled and was upsetting the apple cart of the Establishment’s “war agenda” and empire building because he promoted nationalism instead of colonialism. See his Senate speeches on Algeria and Indochina available at the JFK Library online.

    • Avatar angryspittle says:

      Mea culpa, I got the month wrong…….

    • Avatar Hawk620 says:

      June 10, 1963

    • Avatar NativeNewYawker says:

      He also was to do away with the Fed-Reserve, introduced the silver dollar, and executive order 101 was rescinded the day after his death by LBJ – who would have been dumped for the ’64 campaign.

      On 11-22-63 at noon time in DC, Bobby Baker (still alive) was testifying against LBJ’s history of corruption from House to Senate, which would have put LBJ behind bars….but when news broke that JFK was assassinated, the hearings stopped. How convenient.

    • Avatar derryn johnson says:

      That is meant to be one of the reasons – also the Vietnam war. I think Jackie played a part in it or had knowledge.

    • Avatar harry freeloaderII says:


    • Avatar derryn johnson says:

      yes, I think she was in on the assassination from the beginning

    • Avatar harry freeloaderII says:

      I supposed she conspired with Castro, Khrushchev and the Mob to have her husband murdered right in front of her. Oh, let’s not leave out LBJ. Were they having an affair? Why don’t you write a script for that mishmash and submit it to Hollyweird. People will believe anything these days.

    • Avatar derryn johnson says:

      not what I was saying was it ?

    • Avatar harry freeloaderII says:

      You didn’t SAY anything.

    • Avatar derryn johnson says:


    • Avatar Domenico says:

      Bingo!!! James Di Eugenio has talked about this at the JFK Lancer November-In-Dallas conferences.

    • Avatar derryn johnson says:

      I have read it did, but I don’t think so. Did he really say anything the people didn’t know anyway – you mean ” the secret society ” stuff don’t you…..

  45. Avatar spearman says:

    Upon a 1st scan I noticed 100s of entries of LHO’s 201 file are labeled classified. No surprise of course. It is unlikely these will pass CIA resistance to release in 2017.

  46. Avatar John Simkin says:

    Interesting information – especially on David Morales, David Atlee Phillips, E. Howard Hunt, William King Harvey.

    It is interesting looking at the references and links on the Wikipedia pages for these people to see how much influence John McAdams has on this organization.

  47. Avatar edwardrynearson says:

    it feels like this subject matter is achieving “critical mass” > keep up the great work whowhatwhy!

    • Avatar Ron Schuster says:

      Far from critical mass. There should be a term called ‘too late to mean anything and the criminals either destroyed all useful information’ or ‘the official version always wins and it’s getting more so every day’. Critical mass might have been a valid thing in the mid to late 60’s or at the time of Watergate. At this point in time, no amount of mass is gonna be critical, and trust me . . . any real critical evidence has been canned long ago.

    • Avatar tom says:

      …or “the last perp died last year, so now it’s all clear to release the documents”.

    • Avatar Ron Schuster says:

      The top perp(s) in the pyramid are still alive, and their immediate lieutenants are still alive, and the bureaucracy that reports to them and benefits from them still covers their asses, and will forever. So, not now, nor ever, will that gang willingly allow the release of documents that put their nads on the block. The millions of pages of documents that they did allow to be released do not prove guilt at the top of the pyramid, and they don’t really care if the operators down below take a fall or not.

    • Avatar gingercake5 says:

      So true. The Bushes are involved, for example. Then there is the “true top,” the “reptiles.”

    • Avatar NativeNewYawker says:

      Actor Woody Harrelson’s father was one of ‘the tramps’.

    • Avatar CHUCKMAN says:

      Harrison has in another context said his father was a professional killer.

    • Avatar NativeNewYawker says:

      where did you see that?

    • Avatar derryn johnson says:

      The tops perps are still alive..

    • Avatar NativeNewYawker says:

      Funny how Poppy Bush (#41) a known pedophile btw, didn’t know where he was on 112263, but his wife said in her book, ‘George, you were in Dallas that day”.

    • Avatar NativeNewYawker says:

      One that I know of is still alive…his name is Poppy Bush (GHWBush) who was in Dallas on 112263( like so many others) to witness the kill of the century. Bobby Baker also alive. Btw, GHWBush’s correspondence with Montreal lawyer Mortimer Bloomfield (now deceased) head of Permindex (company name for the CIA in Italy) are still sealed in Ottawa, Canada at the National Library and Archives. Many unsuccessful attempts by writer/researcher Maurice Philipps who wrote (in French) the out of print book titled ‘De Dallas a Montreal’ (From Dallas to Montreal) the connection between these 2 cities. The letters were supposed to be made public 20 years after Bloomfield’s death but his widow requested an ‘extension’ until after her death. Last I heard, she was living in a nursing home in Montreal.

    • Avatar Trutherator says:

      Internet changes everything. I read once LBJ once told his secretary they would not find anything.

    • Avatar gingercake5 says:

      Well, they already found him smiling on the airplane, even while standing next to Jackie. Total jerk. Wait until the world finds out about this and so many other false flags/hoaxes/psy-ops.

    • Avatar NativeNewYawker says:

      LBJ, lol, coming from the man that had his own sister (Josefina Johnson) murdered on christmas day by LBJ’s henchman Malcolm Wallace in Texas and by law no autopsy was performed, (like JFK) and her body was cremated. Reason to kill her…to silence her loose lips.